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presidents, president obama and former president george w. bush, clinton, and carter. the body of nelson mandela will lay in state three days in the capital of pretoria and then he'll be buried at his home village several hundred miles away. one more note, jamie and eric, one more note we're seeing in the media, thursday night when nelson mandela passed, he was off life support. he was breathing on his own. he was sleeping. according to one person who was there, he just seemed to give up. he fought and won so many more battles before that. back to you. >> all right, greg. much more on his life and legacy in just a moment. thank you. >>> former new york city mayor david dinkins will be joining us coming up. meanwhile lawmakers on capitol hill are getting harsh criticism as their approval rating dipped. is the so-called do nothing congress doing more than we think. >> as we said and as jamie just mentioned, the world is mourning the death of nelson mandela. the next guest, the guy right there on the left, he was the first official to welcome mandela to our country and th
presidents, president obama and former president george w. bush, clinton, and carter. the body of nelson mandela will lay in state three days in the capital of pretoria and then he'll be buried at his home village several hundred miles away. one more note, jamie and eric, one more note we're seeing in the media, thursday night when nelson mandela passed, he was off life support. he was breathing on his own. he was sleeping. according to one person who was there, he just seemed to give up. he...
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bush has a better approval rating than barack obama, even, right? and yet the -- it's conservatives and republicans who are invoking him as, you know, the best dig they can get in at obama is comparing him to george w. bush. it does show how far the republican party has drifted in various directions, mind you. not in one direction. but away from the bush years. and they are still trying to distance themselves from that. >> and i mean, brian, it's fascinating. we have had mission accomplished. we have had things being called obama's katrina. it literally does feel like -- insinuating things -- his iraq. are we literally going to have the right replay the entirety of the bush presidency, but as a way to attack barack obama? >> well, i think that any of bush's liabilities are sort of fair game. if you're republican. i mean, if you think about it this way, one way -- there are two ways to rehabilitate your image after you've -- you've you've damaged with it with iraq or katrina. one is do hard work oh of repairing your reputation by governing well again
bush has a better approval rating than barack obama, even, right? and yet the -- it's conservatives and republicans who are invoking him as, you know, the best dig they can get in at obama is comparing him to george w. bush. it does show how far the republican party has drifted in various directions, mind you. not in one direction. but away from the bush years. and they are still trying to distance themselves from that. >> and i mean, brian, it's fascinating. we have had mission...
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it is expected that jimmy carter, bush the younger, bush the older, bill clinton and president obama will visit. dan rather just said that he should be considered the greatest leader of the second half of the 20th century. that is how he is viewed around the world. his stature in the world is something that few people have ever known in modern history let alone in history. as the details of the arrangements for the next few days emerge, we will bring them to you right hire. now it's time for the last word. >>> nelson mandela told his biographer men come and go, i have come, and i will go when my time comes. nelson mandela's time came today. >> i pledge to use all my strength and ability to live up to expectations. i am your servant. i don't come to you as a leader. >> nelson mandela has departed this earth at the age of 95. >> the founding president has departed. >> the day he was released from prison gave me a sense of what human beings can do when they're guided by their hopes and not their fears. >> na is the man the world has been waiting to see, his first public appearance in ne
it is expected that jimmy carter, bush the younger, bush the older, bill clinton and president obama will visit. dan rather just said that he should be considered the greatest leader of the second half of the 20th century. that is how he is viewed around the world. his stature in the world is something that few people have ever known in modern history let alone in history. as the details of the arrangements for the next few days emerge, we will bring them to you right hire. now it's time for...
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it points out all the flaws with president obama. the man had never had any private sector experience. the people he surrounds himself have no private -- almost no private sector experience. much less than bush or any of the prior presidents. and that's the problem. >> isn't he a british guy? >> no, he's a canadian. >> okay. >> he may be an american. i don't know if he's american. whatever. the guy is a brilliant writer, and he nails what's going on with obama care and president obama's presidency to the tee, to the wall. bob, you may want to read that and at least have an open mind when you do. >> and kimberly -- >> i have an open mind. do you think you have an open mind? >> kimberly, if you're in a reading mood tonight, would you consider re-reading peggy noonan's blog last night which was along the same lines which is about low information readership? >> you mean read it for the third time? i'm way ahead of you. chop, chop. >> if they're beating up on barack obama, it's a really gutsy thing to do. >> as if he hasn't been beating u
it points out all the flaws with president obama. the man had never had any private sector experience. the people he surrounds himself have no private -- almost no private sector experience. much less than bush or any of the prior presidents. and that's the problem. >> isn't he a british guy? >> no, he's a canadian. >> okay. >> he may be an american. i don't know if he's american. whatever. the guy is a brilliant writer, and he nails what's going on with obama care and...
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so i don't want to get into a thing about is obama worse than bush. i covered those wars, i know what happened. under president obama i think what we have is someone who has sort of rebranded some of the more egregious aspects of the bush-cheney counterterror apparatus and i think has convinced himself that they're waging a smarter war. so they're relying on the drones much more than the bush administration did, using small team of coovert operators to conduct either kill or capture, and because guantanamo remains open despite the president's pledge to close it during his anytime office, i think that the obama administration doesn't want to capture too many people. so the kill-capture program has generally become a kill program. and so at the end of the day, i think the enduring legacy for president obama on the issues i cover is that he made possible a continuation of the bush-cheney counterterrorism apparatus. i imagine dick cheney fly fishing on his boat somewhere in wyoming, you know, sort of having a good chuckle and saying, you know, thank god o
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george and laura bush are aboard air force one with the obamas right now. so is the former secretary of state hillary clinton, the current attorney general of the united states, eric holder, the national security advisor to the president, susan rice, among many, many others. let's bring in our chief national correspondent, john king, who has covered a lot of these kinds of trips. we have been on many of these major trips. can it get awkward from time to time? you have -- there will be four american presidents, current president, three former presidents, in south africa with their wives at the same time. >> number one, a major security challenge for the united states secret service and their international allies as they cooperate on this. i just spoke to a couple sources, they say they are very confident. can it get awkward. you mentioned the current president of the united states and raul castro. i was at the mandela inauguration where vice president gore was there and fidel castro. fidel castro several times tried to approach vice president gore and he lit
george and laura bush are aboard air force one with the obamas right now. so is the former secretary of state hillary clinton, the current attorney general of the united states, eric holder, the national security advisor to the president, susan rice, among many, many others. let's bring in our chief national correspondent, john king, who has covered a lot of these kinds of trips. we have been on many of these major trips. can it get awkward from time to time? you have -- there will be four...
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in addition, president obama, george w. bush, president clinton and president carter will be there. raul castro will be there. will mandela's message of forgiveness resonate? and a time crunch of epic proportions, will the venue be safe? first on the security front. joy worked -- joe worked on sec for pope john paul's funeral. what could go wrong? but a lot could go wrong. >> yeah, south africa's not entirely a safe place. you have a large somali community there, with connections to shabaab. monitoring these will not be easy. you have the problem of a lot of weapons coming through africa, central african republic, libya and the rest of it. so there is the potential danger to secure all these people. >> the u.s. delegation a small part of the crowd. how much control can the u.s. secret service have, realistically? >> well, it's entirely up to the host government. the south african government has hosted u.s. presidential visits in the past. they do a good job. but, again, it's a very difficult situation. you have 100 heads of state means you have 100 armed security details for those h
in addition, president obama, george w. bush, president clinton and president carter will be there. raul castro will be there. will mandela's message of forgiveness resonate? and a time crunch of epic proportions, will the venue be safe? first on the security front. joy worked -- joe worked on sec for pope john paul's funeral. what could go wrong? but a lot could go wrong. >> yeah, south africa's not entirely a safe place. you have a large somali community there, with connections to...
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there were now united states president, obama, bush, clinton and carter. president obama honored the legacy. >> nelson mandela taught us the power of action and the power of ideas. the importance of reason. the response of argument. the need to study not only those who you agree with but, also, those who you do not agree with. >> 90 countries knew in representatives from argentina to pakistan to trinidad to china. >> on the streets of south africa memorials large and small to the man who triumphed over apartheid. >> we have to mourn can cry but more important celebrate the life of a great leader. >> after today's memorial, his body will lie in state for three days before he is buried in the childhood village on sunday. black ice causing problems and we can see it. >> yes, we have two lanes that are blocked off, northbound along 280 on the bridge near black mountain road. if you are traveling through san mateo county between burlinggame and hillsborough, watch out for the black ice that happens over the overpasses and bridges because the cooling happens on
there were now united states president, obama, bush, clinton and carter. president obama honored the legacy. >> nelson mandela taught us the power of action and the power of ideas. the importance of reason. the response of argument. the need to study not only those who you agree with but, also, those who you do not agree with. >> 90 countries knew in representatives from argentina to pakistan to trinidad to china. >> on the streets of south africa memorials large and small to...
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president obama along with former presidents george w. bush, president clinton, and president carter, are all expected to attend the ceremonies. and his body will lie in state in the nation's capitol pretoria from wednesday until next friday. coming up in about an hour and a half from now, at noon eastern time, we'll talk to the man on the left, standing with nelson mandela. he's the first official who greeted mandela when he came to visit the united states in 1990. former new york city mayor david dinkins will be here with his reflections of the man he called a personal friend as well as a hero. should be fascinating insight from mayor dinkins. >> wonderful to have him as our guest in that hour, eric. a lot on the agenda with senator rand paul of kentucky discussing the possibility of a 2016 presidential run, and also his latest thoughts on obama care. all of that with our chris wallace on fox news sunday. we'll give you a preview coming up. >> and that wick udstorm that's still barreling across the country, moving east. there are danger
president obama along with former presidents george w. bush, president clinton, and president carter, are all expected to attend the ceremonies. and his body will lie in state in the nation's capitol pretoria from wednesday until next friday. coming up in about an hour and a half from now, at noon eastern time, we'll talk to the man on the left, standing with nelson mandela. he's the first official who greeted mandela when he came to visit the united states in 1990. former new york city mayor...
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bush to be extraordinarily power and now they don't like president obama being an uber, meaning awesome president? >> yeah, they were totally comfortable with president bush having wide-ranging executive -- far-reaching and you know, ground-breaking really executive power. this president not so much. but the thing that i find really fascinating too, and you'll remember, it started very early when he started appointing people and he had the -- what they were calling green jobs czars and other things. the czars, that was the initial. but they vacillate. they can't decide which attack they want to go with. he's either this like supreme dictatorial, you know, heavy handed leader, or he's totally feckless and leading from behind, and he's -- >> exactly. >> just observe ohhing his administration without actually taking part. so they go between these two extremes. basically finding any angle that they possibly can. to attack and undermine this president. >> james, i feel like we need to now hear from our dictatorial czarist uber president. let's listen to him and hear just how extreme he sound
bush to be extraordinarily power and now they don't like president obama being an uber, meaning awesome president? >> yeah, they were totally comfortable with president bush having wide-ranging executive -- far-reaching and you know, ground-breaking really executive power. this president not so much. but the thing that i find really fascinating too, and you'll remember, it started very early when he started appointing people and he had the -- what they were calling green jobs czars and...
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there have only been living medal of honor winners from president obama. that's the con text this is in. it took a great guy that works for me, joe casper, to find video that secretary gates didn't look at to give toyota the navy. the navy approved the medal of honor. the marine corps leadership did. but secretary gates for the first time in american history brought together an oud board to cast doubt on the medal of honor process in this case. it had been approved up to him. he convened the board for the first time ever and tried to cast doubt on this. here is the problem with that. people do extraordinary things in combat. you can't sit here in the united states safe and sound in the pentagon and say that young marine didn't do what he did. there were seven marines who are arrive now because he did that. >> it's marine eyewitnesses. we are short of time tonight because of nelson mandela. we'll continue to follow t >>> lotses of great suggestion from the viewers on how to cure this voice from saltwater to hot toddy s t favorite, just stop talking. see you
there have only been living medal of honor winners from president obama. that's the con text this is in. it took a great guy that works for me, joe casper, to find video that secretary gates didn't look at to give toyota the navy. the navy approved the medal of honor. the marine corps leadership did. but secretary gates for the first time in american history brought together an oud board to cast doubt on the medal of honor process in this case. it had been approved up to him. he convened the...
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i think president bush, president obama all had very deep conversations, president clinton, with nelson mandela. and they all took his example and tried to figure out how do they embody it. his legacy to the united states is huge as it is to the rest of the world. and i think he taught us that we need to rise above the petty politics that can divide us. and i think his lesson is more relevant today than ever and whether it's in congress or in syria that we can all learn from his example. >> marc, here's the thing, he was not afraid to speak truth to power. not just in his country but in this country as well. >> it's so critical to remember and understand the evolution of the relationship between the official position of the united states and the emerging republic of south africa. because in the 1970s and in the 1980s, united states official foreign policy sided with the apartheid regime. it was president reagan that vetoed sanctions which really came about because of student activism and community activism. i was proud to be a part of those efforts. the divestment efforts. that movement
i think president bush, president obama all had very deep conversations, president clinton, with nelson mandela. and they all took his example and tried to figure out how do they embody it. his legacy to the united states is huge as it is to the rest of the world. and i think he taught us that we need to rise above the petty politics that can divide us. and i think his lesson is more relevant today than ever and whether it's in congress or in syria that we can all learn from his example....
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no word yet if president obama will fly with presidents obama and bush. >>> weighing on on where he ranks of towering figures the last 100 years. take a listen. >> i think he and gandhi and in america martin luther king are in a category by themselves. gandhi and king were martyred. but the agonizing ordeal of nelson mandela for 27 years and how he came out a better man than when he went in captured the imagination of people as nothing else had. his enduring power is that he showed us that there is true freedom in forgiveness. >>> joining me now, civil rights leader and president of the rainbow push coalition, reverend jesse jackson. awfully glad to speak with you. you listened to president clinton. do you agree he belongs in the statues of history with gandhi, martin luther king jr. if not maybe at the top of the list? >> external persecution and the wil will, dignity. they were driven by their suffering. you define them by what they did with the pain. that is to say when mr. mandela chose to use his pain for transformation. to use his pain for reconciliation, revenge or retaliation it t
no word yet if president obama will fly with presidents obama and bush. >>> weighing on on where he ranks of towering figures the last 100 years. take a listen. >> i think he and gandhi and in america martin luther king are in a category by themselves. gandhi and king were martyred. but the agonizing ordeal of nelson mandela for 27 years and how he came out a better man than when he went in captured the imagination of people as nothing else had. his enduring power is that he...
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on air force one with the obamas. former presidents bill clinton and jimmy carter will also attend the event, but are traveling separately. president george h.w. bush could not attend. you can see the memorial service live on msnbc starting at 4:00 a.m. eastern time. >>> up next, republicans are still having some problems, some big problems talking to women voters. in the nation, sometimes bad things happen. add brand new belongings from nationwide insurance and we'll replace stolen or destroyed items with brand-new versions. we put members first. join the nation. ♪ nationwide is on your side ♪ so ally bank has a that won't trap me in a rate. that's correct. cause i'm really nervous about getting trapped. why's that? uh, mark? go get help! i have my reasons. look, you don't have to feel trapped with our raise your rate cd. if our rate on this cd goes up, yours can too. oh that sounds nice. don't feel trapped with the ally raise your rate cd. ally bank. your money needs an ally. you can fill that box and pay one fl
on air force one with the obamas. former presidents bill clinton and jimmy carter will also attend the event, but are traveling separately. president george h.w. bush could not attend. you can see the memorial service live on msnbc starting at 4:00 a.m. eastern time. >>> up next, republicans are still having some problems, some big problems talking to women voters. in the nation, sometimes bad things happen. add brand new belongings from nationwide insurance and we'll replace stolen or...
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former presidents bush, clinton, and carter will be there as well, under tight security. outside mandela's former home, crowds are pouring out their love. massive billboards are filling up with messages of gratitude for mandela, like this one in france. down here, emma says thank you for all you've done to change south africa and the rest of the world. american photographer, darrell todd wanted to capture the mood here. >> their smiling, they're dancing together, they're singing. honestly, i've only seen that in concerts at home. i've never seen it in the streets. >> reporter: likely nearly 100 reds of royalty will capture the attention. today, tourists and townships alike are having their say. johannesburg, south africa. >>> many other memorial services will be held across south africa, so that all citizens have an opportunity to pay their respects. mandela will be buried after a state funeral next saturday. >>> time magazine has announced ten finalists for person of the year. and some of the names will surprise you. the list of names includes president obama and pope fr
former presidents bush, clinton, and carter will be there as well, under tight security. outside mandela's former home, crowds are pouring out their love. massive billboards are filling up with messages of gratitude for mandela, like this one in france. down here, emma says thank you for all you've done to change south africa and the rest of the world. american photographer, darrell todd wanted to capture the mood here. >> their smiling, they're dancing together, they're singing....
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george bush, jimmy carter, bill clinton and obama all going to be on hand for that. and then wednesday, it's time for person of the year being announced much as always, editors choose the official winner. there is an online poll. for that, egypt's defense minister came out on top. others on the list include chris christie and, yes, miley cyrus. we'll see what they decide there. friday, it friday a big budget day for you? you get your paycheck, see where it's going to go. it is for congress. negotiation deadlines for it, that's what's on tap. important, of course, will present a shutdown. and marking the anniversary of the sandy hook shooting. a gunman opened fire killing 26 people, most of them, as you remember, young children. then sunday, nelson mandela will be raid to rest. this funeral and burial will be on the grounds of the leader's childhood home. so in the hills where he used to run and play as a child. victor, of course, we'll be covering all of that throughout the week. >> of course. thank you. >>> this morning u.n. weapons inspectors are on the ground in i
george bush, jimmy carter, bill clinton and obama all going to be on hand for that. and then wednesday, it's time for person of the year being announced much as always, editors choose the official winner. there is an online poll. for that, egypt's defense minister came out on top. others on the list include chris christie and, yes, miley cyrus. we'll see what they decide there. friday, it friday a big budget day for you? you get your paycheck, see where it's going to go. it is for congress....
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when bush was president you got invited. >> it's different. >> what's the difference? >> i'm not in front of millions every night. minutes ago. you won't believe the president, how little time they spent meeting one on one before the release of obamacare. as a business owner, i'm constantly putting out fires. so i deserve a small business credit card with amazing rewards. with the spark cascard from capital one, i get 2% cash back on ery purchase, every day. i break my back around here. finally soone's recognizing me with unlimited rewards! meetings start at 11, cindy. [ male announcer get the spark business card from capital one. choose 2% cash back or double miles on every purchase, every d. what's in your wallet? i need your timesheets, larry! i love chalk and erars. but change is cong. all my students have the brand new surface. it has the new windows and comes with office, has a real keyboard, so they can do real work. they can use bing smartsearch to find anything in the world... or last night's assignment. and the battery lasts and lasts, so after school they ca
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bush as the most polarizing year ever. look how far the lines really are. it's no surprise since over the past decade the nation's seen a rise in liberal democrats and conservative republicans, it's which way politics to the fringe or center. we search far and wide to find someone who knows politics and elected as a republican governor and served four presidents including one democrat named obama. and the only name we could come up with is huntsman. yes, that's my dad jon. welcome to "the cycle." we've banished luke to the remote camera so you can be surrounded by beautiful women, a man with five daughters -- >> i have to say, i've been at a lot of tables but never been so intimidated. and so honored, i have to tell you, it's a great treat to be with you. >> we love having your daughter as well. >> i came to see whether she's been naulgty or nice and tour'e isn't here to give me the straight scoop. >> he wishes he could be but dad, you've been in politics a very long time, before i was born. your first job was advance man for reagan. have you seen it this d
bush as the most polarizing year ever. look how far the lines really are. it's no surprise since over the past decade the nation's seen a rise in liberal democrats and conservative republicans, it's which way politics to the fringe or center. we search far and wide to find someone who knows politics and elected as a republican governor and served four presidents including one democrat named obama. and the only name we could come up with is huntsman. yes, that's my dad jon. welcome to "the...
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president obama was there with former presidents clinton, bush, and carter. along with former secretary of state hillary clinton. and when the president rose to speak, what an ovation. >> president barack obama. [ cheers ] >> thank you. >> the president praised mandela's moral vision and courage. but said the great leader's work is unfinished. >> we know that like south africa, the united states had to overcome centuries of racial. it took people known and unknown to see the dawn of a new day. michelle and i are beneficiaries of that struggle. but in america and in south africa and in countries all around the globe, we cannot allow our progress to cloud the fact that our work is not yet done. and so we, too, must act on behalf of justice. we, too, must act on behalf of peace. >> mandela inspired countless people around the world including president obama who spoke from the heart in personal terms. >> it woke me up to my responsibilities to others and to myself and it sent me on an improbable journey that finds me here today. and while i will always fall short
president obama was there with former presidents clinton, bush, and carter. along with former secretary of state hillary clinton. and when the president rose to speak, what an ovation. >> president barack obama. [ cheers ] >> thank you. >> the president praised mandela's moral vision and courage. but said the great leader's work is unfinished. >> we know that like south africa, the united states had to overcome centuries of racial. it took people known and unknown to see...
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bush and clinton will also attend. members of the mandela family including nelson mandela's grandson and several government ministers also came here earlier today and held a prayer session of their own inside his home. hundreds of candles have been lit in what has become a shrine outside the home. one local woman saw the candles behind me were running out. they were burning out. she gave away hundreds of these solar-powered candles which last up to five years. so, as she said, the memory of nelson mandela could carry on forever. one final note. i met with the guy who produced the movie "long walk to freedom" which just premiered around the world. he knows nelson mandela quite well. i asked him what does he think nelson mandela would have to say about the scene today? he said nelson mandela would have joked, what's all the fuss about? the fuss is about nelson mandela. these people lost their father. he's known her locally as tata, but they found collectively a new energy for south africa. >> paul, thank you. >>> a new t
bush and clinton will also attend. members of the mandela family including nelson mandela's grandson and several government ministers also came here earlier today and held a prayer session of their own inside his home. hundreds of candles have been lit in what has become a shrine outside the home. one local woman saw the candles behind me were running out. they were burning out. she gave away hundreds of these solar-powered candles which last up to five years. so, as she said, the memory of...
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obama reached out to the bushes, 43, and they will be joining, the bushes will be joining the president on air force one to go to the memorial services next week. interesting. nice way to bring some unity. >> appropriate respect and tribute. bob, quick question? >> i have a quick response to greg. i mean, look, it is true he embraced these people. they were the few people willing to embrace him. the united states held up sanctions. reagan continued to -- >> that's my point though. >> reagan had to be overridden by the congress in order to get those sanctions. >> that was my point though. >> i understand. i appreciate that. juan, one fast point, did the clerk who also won the nobel peace prize with mandela, did an awful lot to help mandela pave the way. the white africana. do you think that's a fair statement? >> i do. remember, they have a unity government. mandela is the first elected president of multiracial south africa. he makes the clerk his deputy president so there's a clear sign to the country, this is about reconciliation, moving forward. this is not about recriminations and bi
obama reached out to the bushes, 43, and they will be joining, the bushes will be joining the president on air force one to go to the memorial services next week. interesting. nice way to bring some unity. >> appropriate respect and tribute. bob, quick question? >> i have a quick response to greg. i mean, look, it is true he embraced these people. they were the few people willing to embrace him. the united states held up sanctions. reagan continued to -- >> that's my point...
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bush and his wife laura, hillary clinton hitching a ride to south africa with the obamas on "air force one," to the delight of the press quoer on board bush 43 came back to the cabin for a 90-minute, unfortunately off the record. white house producer alicia jennings, shawna thomas, looking for the rest of our team there. it was all our crew on board. and in south africa, president jimmy carter sat down with brian williams to talk about nelson mandela's impact on his own presidency and what the future now holds for south africa. >> i had a chance to meet with him and winnie. he in grash iaciated himself by saying our daughter had been arrested three times as a college student for apartheid. >> do you have any concerns nelson mandela, post africa, even though he was out of a policymaking role as you know his presence, his aura, made for an era here. >> i don't think there's any doubt since nelson left office, the harmony between black and white people has gone down. nelson was dealing with it in a very inspirational way, treating barack obama the black and white on an equal basis. i'm no
bush and his wife laura, hillary clinton hitching a ride to south africa with the obamas on "air force one," to the delight of the press quoer on board bush 43 came back to the cabin for a 90-minute, unfortunately off the record. white house producer alicia jennings, shawna thomas, looking for the rest of our team there. it was all our crew on board. and in south africa, president jimmy carter sat down with brian williams to talk about nelson mandela's impact on his own presidency and...
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bush, laura bush, and hillary clinton. bill clinton's traveling separately from rio and jimmy carter will join them in johannesburg as well. only the second time in history that the current president and three former ones are together on foreign soil. also making the trip, texas republican senator ted cruz. senate democrats were asked not to go because of their busy legislative calendar this week. on the house side, aaron schock is leading a 24-member delegation. many of those members are for the congressional black caucus. president obama will speak tomorrow at the service which you can watch right here on msnbc beginning at 4:00 a.m. eastern. that's tomorrow in the morning. we'll be right back after this. d over the taste of starbucks house blend? not that we like tooting our own horn but... ♪ toot toot. [ male announcer ] find gevalia in the coffee aisle or at gevalia.com [ male announcer ] how could switchgrass in argentina, change engineering in dubai, aluminum production in south africa, and the aerospace industry
bush, laura bush, and hillary clinton. bill clinton's traveling separately from rio and jimmy carter will join them in johannesburg as well. only the second time in history that the current president and three former ones are together on foreign soil. also making the trip, texas republican senator ted cruz. senate democrats were asked not to go because of their busy legislative calendar this week. on the house side, aaron schock is leading a 24-member delegation. many of those members are for...
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president obama and first lady michelle obama will attend today's memorial service, so will former president george w. bush and bill clinton. >> joining us from johannesburg we know about the president, former president, tell us who will be at tuesday's memorial and sunday's state funeral. >> reporter: well, we know at least 90,000 south africans will cram into that saoccer stadium tuesday to honor nelson mandela. joining them, in addition to the u.s. presidents, will be a number of heads of states. the reason i can't give you the exact number is the south africans don't know yet due to sensitivities around traditional beliefs about not talking about this. the embassy was really only given details about the events yesterday. david cameron, the zimbabwean president will be, israelis will be here, too. it's going to be like the united nations in that football stadium on tuesday. beyond that the actual funeral will take place under a large tent in the middle of the hills, an amphitheater of natural beauty, a very remote rural area where nelson mandela grew up. there will be a huge tent, about 4
president obama and first lady michelle obama will attend today's memorial service, so will former president george w. bush and bill clinton. >> joining us from johannesburg we know about the president, former president, tell us who will be at tuesday's memorial and sunday's state funeral. >> reporter: well, we know at least 90,000 south africans will cram into that saoccer stadium tuesday to honor nelson mandela. joining them, in addition to the u.s. presidents, will be a number of...
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bush and laura bush will join the obamas aboard air force one to make the trip to south africa for mandela's services. former president bill clinton and hillary clinton also expected to attend. no word yet if the clintons will be flying on air force one with presidents obama and bush. we've just learned a spokesman for former president carter also telling nbc he is going to south africa as part of the elders delegation. he will not be on air force one with the obamas. new today in politics, president obama is scheduled to speak this hour about u.s.-israeli relations in the current environment. part of a forum sponsored by the saban center at the brookings institute. other speakers include secretary of state john kerry, israeli prime minister benjamin netanyahu. new today, the president is calling on congress to extend unemployment benefits set to expire on december 28th. >>. >> the nonpartisan congressional budget office predicted allowing them to expire will be a drag on economic growth next year. a report by the department of labor and my council of economic advisors estimated could cost b
bush and laura bush will join the obamas aboard air force one to make the trip to south africa for mandela's services. former president bill clinton and hillary clinton also expected to attend. no word yet if the clintons will be flying on air force one with presidents obama and bush. we've just learned a spokesman for former president carter also telling nbc he is going to south africa as part of the elders delegation. he will not be on air force one with the obamas. new today in politics,...
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and president obama en route along with former president george w. bush. rare they're on air force one together. decided to get a ride. >> hitched a ride. they're going to be joined, of course, by former presidents bill clinton who was also close to any son mandela, as you said, and jimmy carter, too. he's going for the memorial service. some other world leaders who plan to attend for mr. mandela are the u.n. secretary-general ban ki-moon, david cameron, prince charles is going. the french president, francois hollande and even the cuban president, as we said he had ties with cuba in the past, raul castro, list goes on and on of dignitaries. >> of course, with president obama and three of his predecessors going to south africa, you can imagine what robin was talking about, and that is security and the kind of complex situation they're dealing with potentially a nightmare. secret service had very little time to prepare for the trip. athena jones is joining us at the white house. we're very much aware of what it takes. there's not a lot of advance work when y
and president obama en route along with former president george w. bush. rare they're on air force one together. decided to get a ride. >> hitched a ride. they're going to be joined, of course, by former presidents bill clinton who was also close to any son mandela, as you said, and jimmy carter, too. he's going for the memorial service. some other world leaders who plan to attend for mr. mandela are the u.n. secretary-general ban ki-moon, david cameron, prince charles is going. the...
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let me defend president obama right now, that is not his phone. it would be awkward for him to say i'm not taking a photograph because then a.p. would have getten a picture of him not getting the picture. i think mrs. obama said it all, can we have a little decorum right now. >> and have you seen the leader of denmark. she is hot. that is one hot woman. >> what are you suggesting? >> well, she's a good-looking woman and she offered to take a picture with him. michelle obama doesn't look very happy about it. that was my take on it. that was my read from the photo. a photo says a million words. >> can i say one thing, this must be the slowest damn news day if this is what we got. >> bob, you have to admit, if you are at a funeral, you will pull out a camera and do a selfy. >> i think president obama should be impeached. i think this is a horrible picture. not for the picture, but when he has the picture taken he is doing this. he is biting his lip. i find that to be very, very offensive to me as an american and him being a kenyan born interloper. th
let me defend president obama right now, that is not his phone. it would be awkward for him to say i'm not taking a photograph because then a.p. would have getten a picture of him not getting the picture. i think mrs. obama said it all, can we have a little decorum right now. >> and have you seen the leader of denmark. she is hot. that is one hot woman. >> what are you suggesting? >> well, she's a good-looking woman and she offered to take a picture with him. michelle obama...
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bush. richard fowler joins us, democratic strategist. the entire financial structure of obama care is contingent on young people enrolling to subsidized higher health care costs for, of course, older, circumstancer americans. if a scant 22% of young americans say they're going to enroll but almost half say forget about it. what does that do to the viability of obama care? could it fail? >> it destroys it. the math zdoesn't work. the president is requiring the youth to be the back stop for those who need care now. it's like when social security was founded back 70-plus years ago. seven people payed in for every one person paying out. they needed the workers, the young workers paying in to pay for those who needed the retirement. same thing with obama care. it's all premised under young people, healthy people paying who don't need services. the young people are say, look, we don't have a monthe money, w don't have the job. youth is suffering twice the unemployment rate as everybody else in the country. if you can pay a $95 fine to get away
bush. richard fowler joins us, democratic strategist. the entire financial structure of obama care is contingent on young people enrolling to subsidized higher health care costs for, of course, older, circumstancer americans. if a scant 22% of young americans say they're going to enroll but almost half say forget about it. what does that do to the viability of obama care? could it fail? >> it destroys it. the math zdoesn't work. the president is requiring the youth to be the back stop for...
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still, it was wonderful to see presidents clinton, bush, carter and obama all together, mourning the same man in the same way. going forward, what do we take away from this? >> well, we witness today, carol, a moving tribute to a powerful and incredible man. the fact is he was more than a politician. he was a politician with moral authority. and that is, perhaps, because he moved from the margins to the mainstream. we witnessed really one of the most transformational figures in the modern era. if we are to pay tribute to president mandela, while we stand in awe of his legacy, we must somehow move from awe to action. that's what he would have us do, to continue the hard work which he began. i was inspired as i watched people who don't normally stand in the same room, let alone on the same stage come together. he pitched a big tent, in life and in death. and all of us are better because of it. >> to see so many world leaders, i guess there were 100 world leaders there, past and former, everyone from hamid karzai to raul castro to, of course, the american presidents. the tea party repub
still, it was wonderful to see presidents clinton, bush, carter and obama all together, mourning the same man in the same way. going forward, what do we take away from this? >> well, we witness today, carol, a moving tribute to a powerful and incredible man. the fact is he was more than a politician. he was a politician with moral authority. and that is, perhaps, because he moved from the margins to the mainstream. we witnessed really one of the most transformational figures in the modern...
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and made his mark. >> reporter: obama only met mandela once. ever so briefly as a junior senator. but his connection may be the most profound. it was mandela, he says, who awakened him to the wider world. inspiring him to political activism. >> he gave me a sense of what human beings can do when guided by their hopes, not by their fears. >> reporter: in other words, there night not be a president obama if not for nelson mandela. for "this week." jonathan karl, abc news, washington. >>> and we're lucky now to be joined by four individuals who had unique working relationships with nelson mandela. bill keller. dr. gay mcdougall, who campaigned for his release from prison. stan greenberg, his pollster and strategist. and ambassador jendayi frazer. thanks to all of you for being here. bill, let me begin with you. we ended the piece with the relation obama and nelson mandela. and president clinton. they're important but didn't agree in important ways as politicians. >> they are. it's -- was noteworthy that the president he felt closest to was bill clinton because they had more in common
and made his mark. >> reporter: obama only met mandela once. ever so briefly as a junior senator. but his connection may be the most profound. it was mandela, he says, who awakened him to the wider world. inspiring him to political activism. >> he gave me a sense of what human beings can do when guided by their hopes, not by their fears. >> reporter: in other words, there night not be a president obama if not for nelson mandela. for "this week." jonathan karl, abc...
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president obama along with president bush and clinton will head to africa for the funeral. mandela died thursday at the age of 95 after a long battle with a lung infection. >>> the grammy nominations are out. justin timberlake and rapper jay-z lead the pack. song of the year, and best new artist is this man. performs at last night's nominations. ♪ say i never failed ♪ >> ooh! 17-year-old newcomer and bruno mars nominations. the 56 awards show airs january 26th. >>> you dancing along? >> shows you how out of touch i am with the kids. >> not me. i'm on top of it. a number of one-named singers these days. >> following on the heels of madonna and sting. >> now time for rick who only goes by one name. we have a weather look for you you severe weather. at least 11 people are dead after a winter storm and cold temperatures hit the united states. ice, sleet and snow in parts of texas causing several accidents. power outages. flight cancellations. in oklahoma city, slick roads, many motorists stranded and causing an suv to flip over there. in california, three people died of hyp
president obama along with president bush and clinton will head to africa for the funeral. mandela died thursday at the age of 95 after a long battle with a lung infection. >>> the grammy nominations are out. justin timberlake and rapper jay-z lead the pack. song of the year, and best new artist is this man. performs at last night's nominations. ♪ say i never failed ♪ >> ooh! 17-year-old newcomer and bruno mars nominations. the 56 awards show airs january 26th. >>>...
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united states president obama as well as two former presidents, clinton and bush, as well as their wives will be in attendance. they will be joined with the leaders of at least a dozen other countries and more are continuing to join. >> but here, this guy was the greatest. >> reporter: on sunday, thousands packed places of worship in pretoria and soweto. different creeds and colors honoring the same man as father. >> this is a special mass for mr. mandela. >> reporter: tears and keers capturing the love for father as south africans called mandela. the greatest memorial may be the faces, black and white together, parents bring children who will live a life madiba made possible. >> they were born free in south africa. they experience all the fruit. >> reporter: which pride and legacy, there is also lochlts one man has mandela's image on his car and says he hasn't been able to sleep or eat sense he heard the news. >> how can i live without madiba? i'm so sad. >> reporter: the long good bye will continue all week, adding to the legend and legacy of nelson mandela. you know on friday they had
united states president obama as well as two former presidents, clinton and bush, as well as their wives will be in attendance. they will be joined with the leaders of at least a dozen other countries and more are continuing to join. >> but here, this guy was the greatest. >> reporter: on sunday, thousands packed places of worship in pretoria and soweto. different creeds and colors honoring the same man as father. >> this is a special mass for mr. mandela. >> reporter:...
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it came out under george bush the president obama has exposed it and it is proven that they only people who are really interested in believe the united states is losing any kind of respect and power is the right- wing -- this is what they're trying to do. we lose the reserve currency of the dollar and have to print money. and also, these questions -- it is basically just the opinion of the person. it is not only in a military, how strong you are militarily, it is how you have dialogues. host: thank you for the call. you mentioned the nsa. there was a story this morning -- the piece begins with these words -- next is gilbert from tulsa oklahoma. on the question of u.s. global power, is it the climbing or on the rise he echo caller: -- on the rise? caller: to me it is declining. there is a difference between being that between being the strongest and the most powerful. i think we are the strongest but not the most powerful. the nations we have gone to war with are more powerful than we are financially. look at japan. look at south korea, look at germany. we areere at home, losing all kind
it came out under george bush the president obama has exposed it and it is proven that they only people who are really interested in believe the united states is losing any kind of respect and power is the right- wing -- this is what they're trying to do. we lose the reserve currency of the dollar and have to print money. and also, these questions -- it is basically just the opinion of the person. it is not only in a military, how strong you are militarily, it is how you have dialogues. host:...
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obama has come with former president george bush and former president carter and former secretary of state, hillary clinton. we also saw pictures of bill clinton, the former president. he came separately. interestingly, of course, chelsea clinton is there, too it always reminds me of the famous store bill clinton tells back in 1990 when mandela was being freed, he was in arkansas and says that he ran to wake up chelsea and said you must watch this. this is probably the most important thing you're going to see that will happen in your lifetime, the freeing of nelson mandela and the leading to democratic rule here in south africa. >> and robyn you were seeing that nelson mandela had become counsel for president clinton during his travails. >> they were presidents at the same time. president clinton, when i spoke to him last year outside his house on his 94th berth day was grateful for the counsel he received from nelson mandela. he was particularly under fire during the lewinsky scandal. he'd have late-night conversations with mandela and he took comfort from the fact that someone like
obama has come with former president george bush and former president carter and former secretary of state, hillary clinton. we also saw pictures of bill clinton, the former president. he came separately. interestingly, of course, chelsea clinton is there, too it always reminds me of the famous store bill clinton tells back in 1990 when mandela was being freed, he was in arkansas and says that he ran to wake up chelsea and said you must watch this. this is probably the most important thing...
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i echo president obama sentiments about nelson mandela. reagan had mandela, as well as bush, he was considered a terrorist. it is funny how when we look , martinthese folks luther king and mandela, two of humans in theble century. they were looked upon during their lives, not so much as the heroes that they are now. just remember that. host: john, thank you for the call. this piece from "ast." why mandela? what exactly makes nelson mandela so special? apart from the fact that he emerged from 27 years in apartheid prisons bearing so little malice. he insisted on reconciliation being central to a truth commission in order to heal wounds caused by years of bitter racial hatred. bok rugby a spring jersey in a bold bid to unite the nation behind the mainly white south african team. he stepped down after just one term, unlike too many world leaders who cling to it until they -- it destroys them or the nation they are leading. next is james, grand forks, north dakota. republican mind, good morning. -- republican line, good morning. caller: i am c
i echo president obama sentiments about nelson mandela. reagan had mandela, as well as bush, he was considered a terrorist. it is funny how when we look , martinthese folks luther king and mandela, two of humans in theble century. they were looked upon during their lives, not so much as the heroes that they are now. just remember that. host: john, thank you for the call. this piece from "ast." why mandela? what exactly makes nelson mandela so special? apart from the fact that he...
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george bush and his wife will join them aboard air force one. bill clinton and jimmy carter are set to attend as well. it's a big test for africa's government as they plan the memorial. 94,000 people are expected at fnb stadium home to the world cup final in 2010. 100,000 more expected in the area at overflow sports centers while many details were worked out well in advance politico reporting the last minute logistics for the secret service are daunting. the president's security won't have control over access and there are concerns on everything from the motorcade route to his safety once inside. meanwhile, sunday marked an official day of prayer across south africa but in church the scene was as remember celebratory as it was mournful. and a week after the deadly commuter train wreck in new york, officials are upgrading signals on the curve where the crash occurred. new signals are expected to be up and running this morning. four people were killed last sunday when a metro-north train hit a stretch of track at nearly three times the speed limit
george bush and his wife will join them aboard air force one. bill clinton and jimmy carter are set to attend as well. it's a big test for africa's government as they plan the memorial. 94,000 people are expected at fnb stadium home to the world cup final in 2010. 100,000 more expected in the area at overflow sports centers while many details were worked out well in advance politico reporting the last minute logistics for the secret service are daunting. the president's security won't have...
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bush in 2008 and just now for mrs. obama. but it's a great way to see history through a different set of eyes. like through the eyes of christmas. it really changes the way we look at our first families. >> i want to start with first lady michelle obama. what went into decorations this year? there has been a military theme, a celebration of those who sacrifice every day for us. >> that's something that mrs. obama keeps close to her heart and it's very important to her. the actual theme is gather round your family, our traditions, our history. and the blue room true does honor our servicemen and there are stars for our fallen soldiers. there are also these really poignant pictures of children reconnecting with their parents as they return from the military service. >> so meaningful. jackie kennedy, i'm sure there was attention to detail there. >> i love jackie kennedy. our fashion icon. here is the secret, her christmas style was a little messy. it was even happen hazard in their private family photo, which are presidential hi
bush in 2008 and just now for mrs. obama. but it's a great way to see history through a different set of eyes. like through the eyes of christmas. it really changes the way we look at our first families. >> i want to start with first lady michelle obama. what went into decorations this year? there has been a military theme, a celebration of those who sacrifice every day for us. >> that's something that mrs. obama keeps close to her heart and it's very important to her. the actual...
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who was advising president bush in an op-ed to cut a deal with kim jong il that he really wants to make a deal. kind of like korea did, north korea did in 1994. she was wrong in 1994. she was wrong in 2001. she's wrong now about iran. we're told that those who refuse to learn from history are destined to repeat it. and when there is enough arrogance that anyone, any leader thinks they are smarter, wiser, better than anybody that's gone before, therefore they can make a better deal with corrupt and evil people like no one else has made, then their name goes down in history ust as neville chamberlain's has. he's waved his peace agreement, which he agreed to give away part of europe to his fuhrer thinking it meant peace in his his nd what it meant was ignorance and insidivity was going to cost -- naivity was going to cost millions of people their lives. history is there for people who are willing to study and learn from it. a shoulder -- i shoulder for the people in israel. i shoulder for people in the united states that think we're invulnerable. the only way the united states could possib
who was advising president bush in an op-ed to cut a deal with kim jong il that he really wants to make a deal. kind of like korea did, north korea did in 1994. she was wrong in 1994. she was wrong in 2001. she's wrong now about iran. we're told that those who refuse to learn from history are destined to repeat it. and when there is enough arrogance that anyone, any leader thinks they are smarter, wiser, better than anybody that's gone before, therefore they can make a better deal with corrupt...